Kissing a Stranger on a Plane?! Travel Romance at 35,000 Feet
Love is in the air! This week a listener shares her romantic travel story of kissing a stranger on a plane! Making the most of the in-flight entertainment, a travel romance blossoms at 35,000 feet, putting the 'lust' in wanderlust!
Following in Anthony Bourdain's footsteps, Alun dives head first into Filipino food culture, attending a traditional Fiesta in Siargao. The Philippines is world-famous for it's Lechon: perhaps the "best pig on planet earth"?
In this week's Tripological Reasoning, Adam recounts his hostel horror story of a backpacking UFC fan shadowboxing at 6am, waking up the entire hostel in the process. The gloves are off!
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction
01:11 – Fiesta: Alun’s Filipino food adventure
03:08 – The joys of Lechon: "the best pig on planet earth"
10:46 – Tripological Reasoning: UFC fan vs hostel etiquette
20:18 – Tales of a Trip: Airplane romance to New Zealand
27:00 – Thoughts and reflections on love and public transport
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Transcript
Alun:
[0:02] Hello, and welcome to this episode of Tripology, the only backpacking show where the hosts are perpetually nomadic, on the road, moving about the globe like
Welcome to Tripology
Alun:
[0:12] a pair of little travellers. I'm Alun, and I'm here with the ever-pawcene Adam.
Adam:
[0:19] Every now and again you use an adjective that I don't know and I've never heard. You're going to have to describe Porcine to me, mate. I think it sounds quite negative.
Alun:
[0:27] It is one of the few adjectives that has negative connotations that I've ever used to describe you, but I can justify it thusly. Basically, Adam, porcine means possessed of the qualities of a pig. However, I don't regard you in such a manner, but I would like to tell a story which involves a pig. And via that process, I'd want to describe you as porcine.
Adam:
[0:53] All right, so nothing but a segue. way.
Alun:
[0:55] Yeah, this week's adjectives was very much a vehicle with which I would like to move swiftly to a destination as yet unknown to you. And that is my description of a time in the Philippines, very recent time,
Fiesta in the Philippines
Alun:
[1:10] where I went to experience a fiesta. It was a very exciting time. You don't know what a fiesta is, I take it. I don't really understand what a fiesta is. But I've been lucky enough to make some good friends here in Siargao where i'm basing myself and one day one of them said Alun we're
gonna go to fiesta and from the moment those words left his lips as an utterance my life cascaded into such a wondrous like series of events i couldn't help but rush to a microphone to share them with you right.
Adam:
[1:47] I'm excited i i do remember actually being in the Philippines well both times when i was there in manila with you and also when i was there previously the heavy influence of the spanish there so i would hazard a guess that fiesta's got something to do with a party or celebration.
Alun:
[2:01] There is a sort of party celebration aspect to it yeah fiesta usually basically i'm i now understand that fiestas are cultural celebrations that take place on a barangay level, like as a neighborhood. And they often like celebrate a patron saint of the neighborhood or some other significant event to the neighborhood. They spring up all over the island. They're ever so exciting. And my friend said, we're going to rent a car. We're going to gather sort of a lot of people, our friends. We're all going to drive down in this truck. You have a prime position in the back seat of the truck, but there'll be people in the truck bed. We're all going to drive from the south of Chargau, where we currently are, up to the north to a barangay called Burgos, which is having its fiesta. And we'll stay in a place there. We'll surf. We'll explore. And we'll... Food which is the primary as far as i can tell draw of a fiesta is the consumption of a lechon do you know all about lechon my friend uh.
Adam:
[3:11] I think we had some lechon when we were together is it simply sort of barbecued pig belly something along those lines.
Alun:
[3:18] We had a lechon together in in in the way that someone who has kicked a ball can be said to be a footballer But really, Lechon, in its raw fundamental sense, is this pig on a spit that's been turned and roasted for several hours. On the morning of Fiesta, this family, one family in the Barangay, they put this pig on a spit. They turn that guy for hours and hours and hours, starting at 5 a.m. And then around lunchtime they invite everyone into the house it's an open feast where the lechon the pig is served up you go and just slice off bits with a knife you can also like there's shrimp and calamari and all this stuff laid out in bowls and the whole vibe of the fiesta is just come eat there's abundance we all share together we all have a family dinner they were like excited to have us there they were live streaming instagramming we were talking to them it was like a really beautiful inclusive family time i enjoyed it very much but Anthony Bourdain is on record as saying that lachon the filipino a spit roasted pig is the best pig on planet earth and i have to say after eating this family's lachon i have to agree with them it was
The Joy of Lechon
Alun:
[4:39] something fairly astonishing how.
Adam:
[4:42] The hell first of all has this not been a rice for breakfast section and uh second of all you mentioned anti anthony bourdain if you weren't going to i was because i know you're a massive fan of his and that experience sounds very Bourdain-esque.
Alun:
[4:54] Yeah and like a bourdain episode there was a fair amount of drinking going on although i myself didn't partake because i was so blown away by the pig i thought if this is what's going on in my mouth from a tastebud perspective alcohol would serve only to limit that experience because it was truly like the the crackling of the skin the juiciness of the pork to our vegetarian listeners I mean sometimes I'm on board with a bit of vegetarianism but in this case a little bit of local lechon spit roasted it was something quite remarkable and obviously a deep-seated cultural practice in the Philippines and what was the the nicest thing about it was the the level of joy and acceptance that all the families from the from the barangay came and descended upon this house and ate their food it was like so nice like big family christmas dinner but the family was the neighborhood wow.
Adam:
[5:51] Yeah that's amazing i mean just hazard a guess what sort of um, How many people are we talking about? I mean, like upwards of 50, 100, even more?
Alun:
[6:01] I reckon 100 people came through that house and ate of that Lechon, yeah.
Adam:
[6:04] And you've got side dishes going on, a bit of music, anything like that?
Alun:
[6:08] Many side dishes, lots of music. There was like, we were staying just down the road, so we had a couple of skateboards and surfboards, and we were going around doing all these activities. In the town hall, the basketball court, there was like a beauty pageant going on and a talent show
with dancing. And I imagine there's like lots of different neighborhood houses that open themselves up within the barangay. And every barangay on Chargau, of which there are several, have their own fiestas. They spring up at all different times depending on what their patron saint is or what they're celebrating. So there's like many that you can go to all around, all through the year.
Adam:
[6:46] God, that sounds amazing. So have you now got your ear to the ground to try
Embracing Local Culture
Adam:
[6:49] and get yourself to some other fiestas on the island?
Alun:
[6:52] I have like I've considered basically making it a weekly goal to hunt down a fiesta going on somewhere I don't know if that's an abuse of the tacitly friendly and communal nature of a fiesta but I did have ever such a good time and I think that's what's nice right about staying in one place for a little longer I've been in Siargao for over a month now and I will be staying here for for a longer period of time I'm going to use this as a base to do a bunch of things and what's really nice is that you do make local friends you do meet people who are doing interesting things like this fiesta i think a lot of the travelers here staying in hostels wouldn't necessarily know oh there's a fiesta going on a couple of hours north but the fact that i've been here a little while and made those friends has given me access to to little cultural goings-on that i otherwise wouldn't have been able to to go and experience so that's nice isn't it.
Adam:
[7:43] It's very nice indeed yeah i think that everyone should always try and get involved in stuff like that if they have the opportunity i know that obviously there's vegetarians and vegans that maybe would go for the party but not partake in the eating of the food and i know how prevalent pork and eating pigs is in the philippines um because not only does it seem like the sort of protein of choice but also do you remember when we were in benawi in the rice terraces and we were actually on our way back from a market that was also held in a basketball court.
Alun:
[8:12] Yeah don't.
Adam:
[8:13] Quote me on it but i'm pretty sure that a lot of good things happen in basketball courts in the Philippines But on the way back, we saw a couple of pigs getting sort of captured from what seemed like off the street into a trailer and then driven up the road via a motorbike. And even though we all ate pork on that trip, and we all, maybe you less than me and the other guy, but consume meat on a regular basis, one thing traveling does is really, really, like, reduces the gap between eating meat and seeing the animal sort of, you know, go through its emotional... I don't know, you know, whatever it goes. I mean, a bloody screeching at the top of its voice. It was
terrifying.
Alun:
[8:55] Yeah, I mean, in the West, we really disguise that very well. But when you see a lechon on a stick being turned, there's no divorcing yourself from the actuality that that was an animal that existed and lived and then was put, you know, with a stick going into its mouth and out of its ass over a fire and roasted until it was, you know, cooked through. There's no divorcing yourself from that eventuality. Obviously, it's like pretty much the same process as what goes on in the UK when we kill a chicken and put it on a spit. But rotisserie chicken is what I'm talking about. You might see one in the supermarket if you go. One of the cultural things you can do in the UK, conversely with the Philippines, is go to a supermarket and see a rotisserie chicken.
Alun:
[9:48] So here, replace the chicken with a lechon and replace the supermarket with a lovely community's back garden. And you've pretty much got what I experienced. Yeah, dude, Fiesta, I loved it a lot. I was struck by the friendliness of the people. I was struck with how much a part of it I felt. And I'm going to continue doing amazing things like that going forward. That's why i'm really excited about bedding down in chargau for an extended period of time but i would love is for right now to sort of train my backpacking eye and ear because i feel like one thing that happens when you bed down in a place for too long is that you lose your backpacking flair and we have a solution for this anthropology podcast we have a little hypothetical backpacker training ground and i need you to test me with some
Tripological Reasoning
Alun:
[10:40] traveling hypotheticals can you do that for me i.
Adam:
[10:42] Can mate let's go over to a triple logical reasoning.
Alun:
[10:57] Tripological reasoning is the only reasonable way to practice backpacking without having to go through the sheer hell of having to do it for yourself. And on this episode, you're going to ask me some hypothetical questions. I'm going to tell you what I would do, and you can tell me whether you think I did a good job or not.
Adam:
[11:15] Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to this one, mate, because you are exactly the sort of person
that needs to be asked these questions, and all will become clear very shortly. It's pretty niche it's pretty uh you know you might even think that i've invented it invented it um just for you however um just imagine this right you like your sleep don't you you like your sleep you're a very good sleeper i would i would say you are quite a consistent sleeper you normally go to bed correct me if i'm wrong i know you're surfing you're in a different routine now you're talking 11 midnight maybe maybe you stay up you're
Hostel Disturbances
Adam:
[11:48] doing some editing late but you do like to sleep through until eight o'clock.
Alun:
[11:51] Yeah you can see me taped up mouth closed shut with some medical tape by 11 o'clock snoozing for a good eight hours before getting up having a coffee and doing some jujitsu.
Adam:
[12:02] Yeah i know you better than most you've got a routine you stick to it and it works now picture this you're in a hostel you're in a dorm the dorm's full there's probably three four different dorms in the same building and at 6 a.m you're woken up to the sound i'm going to reproduce the sound okay but the sound is like someone is having a panic attack, um if you can try and imagine it was kind of you know intermittent a little bit sporadic some screams think of you know maybe i'm probably going to risk getting cancelled here but it's like as if someone's having sex perhaps and trying to sort of keep it down right uh or or if someone who maybe has i definitely can't say that um okay.
Alun:
[12:53] Was that the one that was going to get you cancelled because the thing about sex wasn't but you were thinking forward.
Adam:
[12:58] Yeah i'm thinking forward um it just sounded like someone was in a lot of trouble a lot of distress um and definitely needed help so okay so you sort of think okay this is going on for about 20 minutes now and no.
Alun:
[13:12] One was helping.
Adam:
[13:13] No one that's.
Alun:
[13:14] A sad indictment of the hostile scene isn't it.
Adam:
[13:16] No one's helping it was so unbelievably early as well it was so early that you're kind of disorientated and then you go downstairs to where the noise is coming from you see that three or four other backpackers have already woken up and have decided have been woken up by this noise and now we're just deciding to stay awake in the foyer, looking very angry at each other, and as you peer around the corner into the kitchen, there is a gentleman who is wearing headphones, he's standing up in the kitchen.
Alun:
[13:43] One gentleman.
Adam:
[13:44] One gentleman, he's standing up in the kitchen, 6am, 6.30, wearing headphones, Watching his phone, which is perched on a kitchen worktop, and he's got a live fight of the UFC, and the sound is him shadowboxing and pretending to punch and kick and be involved in the fight as much as he's reliving what's going on in the kitchen of the hostel.
Alun:
[14:12] Mental. Yeah, I mean, this is the thing. I'm empathetic to his enjoyment of the fights. So I sort of want to be on his team. However, has he got headphones in, though?
Adam:
[14:26] Yeah, but the sound is him doing the sighs and the punches and the, you know, sort of cheering from time to time.
Alun:
[14:33] What, and that's enough to wake up a whole hostel full of people?
Adam:
[14:37] I mean, we're talking loud, Alun. We're talking seriously loud.
Alun:
[14:40] So is he oblivious because he's got headphones in? He's oblivious to how loud he's being?
Adam:
[14:47] Yeah, so he's got headphones on and he's American.
Alun:
[14:50] Yeah. It's going to be difficult for me to do this as a triplogical reasoning because what I actually do is I'm already up because I would have been watching the UFC. So I would have already been awake. I personally would have gone into the foyer, laptop, headphones on, wherever the Wi-Fi was best, and just watched the fight in quite a calm, sedate sort of a way. Having seen him up and so passionate shadow boxing i would probably have reached out to him, across you know a human barrier and said hey would you like to watch the ufc with me what do you think of these fights i would have connected with him on a visceral level that's not a good Tripological reasoning though so i'm gonna have to transpose it to like what what if it was something i wasn't so into that he was doing so i can be suitably but you know what i would do adam i would take it upon myself to go up to that person and say mate what are you doing please shut up you've experienced me say that to people in hostels haven't you do you remember that old guy in the hostel in Mumbai who was playing with that radio oh.
Adam:
[15:59] Yeah yeah I do actually yeah.
Alun:
[16:01] And who confronted him it.
Adam:
[16:03] Was you it was you that represented the whole dorm.
Alun:
[16:05] Yeah the whole dorm was upset with that guy playing what can only be described as radio tuning frequencies and I said listen mate you've got to stop doing that and he went oh calm down man so.
Adam:
[16:18] Uh we never found out where he was from actually.
Alun:
[16:21] No that's why i gave him an ambiguous accent yeah.
Adam:
[16:24] So the transatlantic difficult to pin but um i mean take take the ufc out of it because i know you're obviously a mixed martial arts fan you do watch the ufc almost religiously you are also someone who really gets into fights and i would say in the in the same way imagine this guy really getting into the fight but if we take the UFC out of it or the fight out of it and we put something else in there I what is going through this guy's head, that he thinks it's acceptable at 6 6 30 in the morning um to to be behaving like that in a hostel i mean i just can't just couldn't fathom it i.
Alun:
[16:57] Think at that point you've lost all perspective as a result of your fandom and your enjoyment of the particular thing but what what staggers me about that is that he has gone through the necessary precautions to not wake everyone up like he's gone to a different area he's got out of his bed he's gone to a different area and then he's putting headphones but then he's got too excited about the fight itself and then all of those precautions have gone out of the wind.
Adam:
[17:22] Yeah yeah well you know i'm gonna come clean this did happen to me and i've been keeping this a secret from you because i wanted to say a live episode because you know i thought it's very appropriate to you and what you what you enjoy yeah um.
Adam:
[17:34] But it happened to me in Kobe last year sort of last November/ December time and the way that i dealt with the situation that i think i've hold my hands up the problem i've got is i'm not the best communicator and especially if i'm dealing with people i don't know and they're doing something that is so unfathomable something that i just cannot comprehend i go from zero to 100 before i've even had a chance to you know think about how i articulate a sentence so i walked downstairs when i when it got to the point where it was unbearable when i just thought this this whatever's happening is serious and i need to go and help this person i went downstairs saw the people that were down in the foyer a couple of them sort of like chatting whispering to each other on a couch and they walked around the corner saw this guy i was incredulous beside myself at what was going on and i walked straight up to him in front of the phone so that he had to look at me i tapped him on the shoulder and he was like none the wiser he took his headphones off big smile on his face and went oh hey man i said what the fuck do you think you're doing and he was like uh what what do you mean i said what the fuck are you doing he was like i'm just watching the fight man i was like 6 30 in the morning you've woken everyone up he was like oh you guys can hear him oh i'm so sorry it's just getting into the action there i was like no you mate you can't do that oh You can't behave like this in our store.
Alun:
[18:59] I like him.
Adam:
[19:00] He was like, you know, went right into his shell. And then, you know, he walked out. He sort of peered around and everyone was like, yeah, man, we've been up for hours, mate. It's like awful. He'd woken us all up. He felt really bad. But, you know, still, I just think it's nuts, man. It's nuts.
Alun:
[19:17] Well, if he's listening, I'd like to hear his side of the story because I would like to know who was fighting. Because there's a few fights that have gone on that really justify his level of enthusiasm. and a few fights which really didn't. So I think depending on, well, this is pending because depending on whether he can get in touch with us on topologypodcast.com contact form there, I'm either on his side or yours. But I think, you know, basically it was disrespectful to be so loud in a hostel we all know that and i think you did the right thing by confronting him so well done to you and well done to me for saying the right answer in a Tripological reasoning it's about time Adam for us to hear from a listener maybe it will be that guy maybe he's sent one in we don't know who it is until we hit play but it's going to be tales of a trip you can go to our website tripologypodcast.com forward slash tales of a trip and you can basically record your greatest travel story we'll play it on the show and we're going to listen to one right now.
Tales of a Trip:
[20:17] Okay i have a good story that i was recommended to send in from a friend when she heard what you guys are doing with the podcast um she came straight to me to get me to tell this story so i flew to New Zealand in February to go traveling i was flying from the uk i um took off from london i flew to vancouver i spent 12 hours in vancouver i eventually um got on my flight from Vancouver to Auckland I sit down and I'm in the middle section of the plane and I think brilliant, there's no one next to me I've got all three seats to myself I go to the loo I come back and there's a couple next to me a boy next to me and a girl the other side of him he asked me for some water from my water bottle and I'm like yeah sure he's a very cutie this guy, um we start chatting he introduces himself i introduce myself um yada yada yada i go and watch a couple of films he goes and does his thing um we put our phones in the first meal comes around we start chatting over the meal um i ask him why he'd been in Scotland because that's where he was coming from and we were just kind of getting to know each other by this point i'd established he wasn't with the girl next to him because he hadn't spoken to her once and she'd put her eye mask on anyway um chat goes on and then i go and watch a film i go and watch when Harry met Sally and he is actually playing the little quiz on the screen in front of him on the plane bear in mind this is a 14 hour flight so there was a long time between all of these events.
Tales of a Trip:
[21:36] Anyway um we chat over the we then end up chatting a bit more like I'm helping him with this quiz there's a little bit of leg touching there's a bit of giggling like he's really friendly we're getting on really well anyway um eventually the armrest comes up between us and his hand is on my leg and
bear in mind this is a night flight and also I had established that he was six foot two um he then takes his baseball cap off and his little neck pillow and I'm thinking okay what's gonna happen here and yeah we end up snogging on the plane and this goes on and we're cuddling on the flight and we're kissing and we're having a great time I'm having a wonderful time this is a good way to see through this flight um and yeah my seat was back so the people behind us would have been able to see us snogging on the plane um and there wasn't just one snog there was multiple uh so the air hostesses would have been like check out row 32 because they didn't know each other when they got on the plane the poor girl the other side of him i dread to know what she was thinking through this flight um anyway we get to the airport we walk through the airport together he has a kiwi passport i have an english passport i have to queue up to declare my shoes because you have to declare if you have like different types of shoes anyway i spend three hours in the airport.
Tales of a Trip:
[22:57] Um he gets through straight away but he had to catch an internal flight so by the time i got through security the other side he was gone and we didn't get each other's numbers um but, i did find him on facebook so that's my story i never saw him again um we were
Kiwi Romance
Tales of a Trip:
[23:14] both ginger which adds to the story so yeah there you go mental.
Alun:
[23:19] There we go from georgie thank you so much for sending it in the new zealand border control shoe policy keeping both seeds and relationships from blossoming erroneously in new zealand for a very long time of course they don't want you bringing shoes into new zealand in case you introduce the seeds of invasive species onto their soil but it seems in this instance adam to have prevented a beautiful ginger relationship from from forming i.
Adam:
[23:50] Mean that is just so outside of anything i've i've experienced or can even imagine happening to me i think.
Alun:
[23:59] Never happened to you have you ever formed a romance on any public transport um.
Adam:
[24:03] I mean maybe maybe hit it off maybe you know to the point where you think oh that person was really lovely you exchange details you agreed to keep in touch and maybe there was a little bit
of flirting going on or you can feel that sort of energy that sexual tension but not to the point where you're just snogging a stranger on a flight.
Alun:
[24:20] Yeah it's quite bold isn't it will self often says that flying is the antithetical medium to walking and i myself have had romances blossom on free walking tours but never on a paid flight so that tells you something about the key differences between me and georgie you know for me it takes basically a long time walking in order to try and establish a rapport and a connection. But I suppose a flight is actually a better... Well, actually, a flight, you have much longer than a walking tour, don't you?
Adam:
[24:56] Yeah, yeah, yeah. And much less walking as well.
Alun:
[24:59] You have a real captive audience for a long time. So I think for me, maybe what it tells me is that I thrive on the intermittent short 30 seconds you get between the tour guide piping up in which I can sort of give the best of myself. And then when I sort of run out of things to say, or I'm getting a bit annoying, the tour guide goes, oh, and look, this is the Duomo di Milano. And then I think, thank god that's so great he's doing that and then i'll do a bit more conversation georgie had to deal with uninterrupted flirtation for for a whole flight or they should have movies i suppose i.
Adam:
[25:34] Wonder if like this sort of speaks to the parallel universes where where anything can be curated there's there's always like you know things can happen if you just say the right things in the right order like i wonder if there's a parallel universe where he actually gets off with the girl on the left that put the eye mask on.
Alun:
[25:50] Yeah yeah so do we describe to a deterministic process of what we think went on that flight was it you know was it harry met sally if the other girl had refused to put the eye mask on and she'd put an equally captivating rom-com then he'd have been playing the quiz in the middle seat looking over at harry met sally looking over uh 51st dates and he's thinking goodness who shall i who shall i raise the armrest in between now yeah.
Adam:
[26:21] Yeah i'm sure maybe georgie's gone i'll have the vegetarian option please and he's gone uh so will i.
Alun:
[26:28] Oh wow wouldn't that be a beautiful moment i found it incredibly bold that georgie had had that experience with let's call him, man six.
Adam:
[26:42] Foot two ginger kiwi.
Alun:
[26:43] With six foot two man and and yet at no point did the exchanging of numbers be discussed presumably because when phones are in flight mode they're out of sight and out of mind yeah.
Adam:
[26:56] Well maybe that's what makes it so pure maybe that's what traveling's all about maybe that experience you know could only have happened in this context and um sometimes there's something just so innocent and so beautiful that you don't necessarily need to to punctuate it with oh i guess we've got to exchange instagrams now um now she's blasted it all over the podcast i wonder if this guy's going to be listening
The Nature of Transport Love
Adam:
[27:18] thinking hang on i'm six foot two i'm ginger i kissed a girl on a flight.
Alun:
[27:23] I do quizzes on planes yeah i think there's something intrinsically romantic about taking public transport at night because the the times where i've been traveling as part of a relationship and we've taken a little night bus together i found it quite like um intimate sexy a little bit sexy yeah you know you're sort of like there or cuddled up on a seat and you know you're in it for the long haul and you know it's going to be a terrible uncomfortable journey where you both arrive tired and bleary eyed at your next location but you'll make it through together i think that's quite sweet you.
Adam:
[27:58] Just say at the beginning of the journey i mean And frankly, it would be more weird if we didn't have sex.
Alun:
[28:03] I've got to be honest, love. I have to take my contact lenses out on these long bus rides. I'm not going to see a damn thing.
Adam:
[28:14] I love it. You love to hear it. I mean, that is so different from every story we've had so far.
Alun:
[28:19] Yeah, and that's what I liked about it. It was all different, wasn't it? And if you've got a sort of sexy tale, perhaps you met someone and very quickly found yourself gallivanting off onto the rooftop of an hostel. I want to hear from you. Tripologypodcast.com forward slash Tales of a Trip. What's your greatest, sexiest, most memorable, most heartbreaking, most beautiful travel memory? Me and Adam want to listen to it and expose it to the world on this big, beautiful podcast. Or you can just type us an email. There's a contact form there as well. But right now, we're going to go to a little section that takes place beyond the podcast that you can access only on Patreon. Tripology Podcast. Let's go there right now, Adam. thank you for joining me for the ride yeah.
Adam:
[29:00] We'll see you there see you on the next one ciao.
Alun:
[29:02] See you next week bye,